Manufacturing is not what you think with Megan Tzanoukakis

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welcome back to the show brand heard of blue color b s coming at you

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with a heavy on the b s today

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but

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how are you doing

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heavy

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today brad

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business solutions be business

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yes

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solutions

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heavy on the business solution

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that's correct

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how you doing

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it is

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today

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a fantastic friday afternoon here in the blue color b s studios and snow is

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coming it's the middle of october and there was snow up north there was an

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inch of snow at one of my clients facilities up around superior he's like

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yes there

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yea

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is out there

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not not excited about that oh

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yeah buddy

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not excited but

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buddy it's gonna go

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yes

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heavily impact your golf game but you know that's what they make yellow balls for

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right yeah and tomorrow morning when we see off it's supposed to be thirty three

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degrees with a real field of twenty eight

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in wrong

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sorry i'm

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no

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just

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no not doing it

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but you don't need to

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not

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you do

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do

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not

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it

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need to

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not doing that so

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yea

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brad who do we have on the show today

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so today we have with us

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a

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one of the people that i've gotten to know over the last three to five

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years or so through the local community that we live in in sussex here is

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the vice president f supply chain is probably one of our largest local employers um

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sussex i am injection moulding it's been different names different things that's a great company

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that supports our community i'm going to butcher the name because there's this tea in

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front

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he

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of her name that we're going to ignore so we're gonna try it we're gonna

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try it megan megan zanacoccis close

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good job brad

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can do it

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i am really depressed

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you can do

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yeah

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it

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oh

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you can do it

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there's that

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no

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te sitting right in front

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welcome

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of it and

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megan

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it

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yeah

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just doesn't do any good yeah

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something

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yeah

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well for you passed the first test brad so

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perfect

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thank you

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oh

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now

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thanks

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we know

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for having me on

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yeah

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the show

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now we know your

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yeah

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test as we talked about before recording your test is to outdo paul giles so

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be

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at

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on your

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that is very hard to live up to i don't know if i don't know

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if i can do it but

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i'm confident

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give

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you

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it a good try

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i know you can you're much smarter than he is

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a

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oh

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i didn't

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h

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say it

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all

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wow

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did

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fall

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i did

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get

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yeah

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then with zingers with people aren't

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yeah

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here that's a great

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hey

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that's

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past

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great

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uh

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guest of the show

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so

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paul

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mean

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as a past

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before

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guest

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we

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of the show it's okay

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yeah beautiful

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right

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friend

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so mean before we

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ah

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get into the before we get into the show let's just quickly identify which generation

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do you fit in with

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oh

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so i identify as a millennial as everyone will tell me i am definitely a

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millennial

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yeah

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yeah

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told often you are a millennial

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yeah

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i know

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yeah

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yeah

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yeah

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yeah

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to

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and why do you

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that's

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why

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awesome

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do you think they do that

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well i think it's my lack of patients for things

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oh yah

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i need to continuously

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h

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improve a lot the i love to use technology

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ah

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stream line to make things better i also look a lot younger than i actually

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am so i might be called gen d at some point though okay

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oh

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it it has

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ah

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happened but

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oh

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fine with me

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yeah that's awesome

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yeah so making things better

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that's awesome

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using technology how has that impacted your you know your career path into your supply

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chain world as well as even within your own organization right being the millennial female

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leader inside your organization how has that journey been for you

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yeah so my journey started actually

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i

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i went to college for accounting so brand knows i love my spread sheets um

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yeah

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and that's really the path that i thought i would take

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oh

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for my entire life as i worked in the big four public accounting for four

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years i travelled i audited i worked very long hours and i learned a lot

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but at some

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yeah

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point you know i knew that i couldn't i couldn't do that forever and so

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my father is actually one of the owners of sussex i am and he approached

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me after i had been in public accounting for a while and said if you

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want to come into manufacturing i have a job for you um and i thought

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it would be in accounting you know what might

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surprise

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agree with it yeah and

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yeah

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and he says no i want

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yeah

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you to be in manufacturing scheduling

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oh

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and i said i don't even know what that is

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it's numbers

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so

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in a

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oh

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different format that's all

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um so i showed up the first day in dress pants

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okay

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and foreign heels walking the shop floor

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yeah

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having absolutely no idea what i got myself into

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thanks dad

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like

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thanks for letting me know

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yeah it was it was eye opening

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oh

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i had always loved manufacturing when

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yes

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i was in when i was in accounting and auditing i audited manufacturing companies and

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i went to physical inventories

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yeah

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and i learned about all these different companies in hell i do things and it

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was a really good crash coursing and the accounting side of manufacturing dark side of

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operations and manufacturing

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ye

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was very new to me

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the

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um

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dark side

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is the dark side and i love it

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oh

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i love it i have people that

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it

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call clients dilate you just love the chaos

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yeah

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i'm like i do

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yeah

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i thrive on the chaos i thrive on making things better and continuously improving and

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finding better faster ways to to do the job

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yeah

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no no

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um

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no

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and

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no no mean you get slow down that's the way we've always done it

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it

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yes

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uh

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just

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yeah

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exactly

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as

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oh

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a

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for those that can't see the anger

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waiting

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ah

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more

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for those that can't see the anger coming

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ah

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out of her face right now

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yeah

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in her ears there's like steam coming out going

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so

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oh

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for for my first several years here i just soaked in those

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yeah

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words right i learned i understood our processes and the longer i was here the

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more i could methodically understand like okay this is why we do it i understand

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why it doesn't mean it's the best way right so but i do think there

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is a as milennials and gen s you can't just come in blazing with i

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want to fix all these problems right

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right

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there is a rhyme or reason why things have been done that way you have

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to step back and understand that and say okay i get it now can we

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use the system two solve that problem right to make it faster to make it

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more efficient but

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yeah

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if you don't understand where we came from and how we got there it's really

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hard to make those changes and have people accept them

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s really great advice for somebody as young as you are oh yeah

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i've come up to a lot of i mean

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oh

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i've made mistakes let's not say

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oh

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i happened

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we've all made mistakes trust me and

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right

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you and i i've made lots of mistakes

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right right

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yeah

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every day

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but i learned from them

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yeah

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right and i know the people and i know i know how much they can

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handle as far as change is concerned in a certain period of time but we

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have come a very long way and we have a lot a lot further to

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go but we are making a lot of progress which is really exciting and it

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makes coming to work really fun

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that's awesome

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hm to

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very cool so how have

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yeh

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so being we would say the younger of the of the groups and you focus

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on continuous improvement how would you say the change was met when you first started

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versus how it's going now you've introduced change

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yeah it was when i first started i've been here about eight years it was

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very difficult one of my co workers will will say it was like one person

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waving the white flag and then we had two people waving the white flag and

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then three people and it's really hard to change when there's not as many people

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on your side right not that there's sides but not as many people

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hm

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embracing it and helping you you can't do it alone it's teamwork it's collaboration

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right

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so over the years

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her

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we've hired a lot of new people that have that continuous improvement mindset that have

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come from other moulders in the area that have used our rope software and and

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some of like the two s that we already have they've used been using

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yeah

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them and use them better so we've been able to use that knowledge to improve

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our organization and grow

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yeah

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our or core group of people who are really trying to implement change so that

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it's not just one person because it can't you can't do it you can't

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no

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right

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no no it

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i

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gets really tired tiring

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yeah

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and it gets really

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ah

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frustrating and it just that's part of the reason why my hair isn't where it

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is anymore either yeah oh

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yeah

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no you can't do it alone

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yeah

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like it's like your family you it takes a village

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yeah

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you all have

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right

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to be rowing in the same direction and we are we are there and just

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we just keep rolling every day so

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cool so when you are starting out with the with the changes because we're a

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generational show so we're going to ask this question of was there a specific genera

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tion that you would meet

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yeah

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that would be more resistant to change you first started out

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yeah i mean all of the boomers are always resistant to change

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oh

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and they will tell you this is

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right

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they will

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yeah

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tell you they're not that's the funniest

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yes

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oh

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yes

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part

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they will

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they will tell me

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yes

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i really want to

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oh

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ah

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change but and then they'll give all their reasons why right and that's but that's

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why i go back to there's a reason why they've been doing things that way

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for thirty years right

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yeah

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thirty years ago it wasn't grong it was probably the best way to do things

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we just weren't as focus as a culture on changing things or improving them on

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a regular basis so they didn't see the extent of change and the the amount

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of change that kind of our generation is throwing on them all at once

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yeah

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no

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oh

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right

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so i think i think milennials are more adapt and flexible to change just because

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we grew up with a lot of change and we are okay with it so

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but i understand where they're

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right

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coming from

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this is

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oh

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this

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so

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is a really great idea megan however why don't you have bob do that instead

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of me could you do that because i really like what i'm doing let's just

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do it this way one last time we'll

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do

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do it this way and then we'll make that change later one last time just

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one last time we'll do it this way

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yeah

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yes

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that that is hard that's

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ah

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a

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yeah

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yeah

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that becomes very difficult right and i think the that's kind of where you can't

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be one person

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oh

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right

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right

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it's a team and everyone on the team is going to migrate to this no

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new way of doing things there's always going to be those outliers but most of

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the time they will come around once they understand the value of the change and

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they understand that it's not this isn't just more work for me there's a reason

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and it's

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ah

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all in how it's presented right if you don't present it if you don't tell

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them why

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yes

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we're doing it or what the benefit is or how it can help them it

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makes them a lot it's much harder to buy in i would feel the same

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way if someone did that to me so you got to present it in the

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right way

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on a spread sheet

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no

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yeah

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oh

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that's the one thing

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sir

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praties are not

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oh

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good for

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oh

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that's a power point

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oh

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and our discussion

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yeah

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oh

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oh

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oh

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so i

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you heard it from me do not cure everything

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okay we're gonna hold you that

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oh

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yeah

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yeah

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m

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uh

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man didn't know

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ah

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as you guys have

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yeah

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grown and you and the business has grown and you've gone through changes over the

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last i mean ship i've been out here in this area for twenty some years

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and that organization has changed dramatically over those twenty years and you've only been there

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you've been part of that eight how or what are you doing to bring in

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the gens kids that twenty five and younger crowd how are you guys attracting and

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retaining or what what tactics are you using that are successful that you can share

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with our audience and what things have you tried just didn't work and it was

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a complete waste of time and money

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yeah so that is a really hard question because we're still

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we do on this highly

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trying to

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highly

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be

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highly

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it's

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powerful journalistic type show here that we have

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oh

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now

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yeah

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i wish

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tens

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someone

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of

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would

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people

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give

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are

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me the

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out there

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seat

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wondering what that answer is going to be

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yeah i mean we

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oh

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um have

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oh

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just been discussing getting in much you know

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yeah

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closer contact with the local schools because

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to

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one

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one

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thing that gens

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i

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i really like about gens is that they don't

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don't oh

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all just want to go to college because they've been told they need to go

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to college and that is huge because

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because

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in my

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oh

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generation in the millennials we were all i mean everyone

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every one

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i know we just went to college it

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and

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didn't

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go

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matter if you

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and

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knew

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got your

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it

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masters

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yeah i mean and you wrecked up all this debt for career you didn't even

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know what you were going into right or something that didn't necessarily need that four

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year degree so gens is much more logical and they're thinking about what do i

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really want to do if i don't really want to need to go to college

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right now i'm not going to i'm going to work or i'm going o do

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a trade or something or get my come any to pay for that extra schooling

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um instead

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yeah

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of incurring that debt myself so that is really it important for the future of

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manufacturing

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huh

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um and we are going to be working

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yeah

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closer with the technical like the tech ed and the robotic and those groups within

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the local high schools because we have a lot of automation and robotics on our

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shop floor which are very good paying jobs and hands on and if we can

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get those kids into our facility to see what we're doing earlier

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ye

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in their lives i think it will really to fit them and us mutually to

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to just talk to those kids earlier and have them understanding what we're doing manufacturing

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it's not dirty it's not it's not what you think of it it's very technical

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it's very scientific and we made cool stuff so

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he

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it

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makes some really cool

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we

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stuff

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know that until you come here

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right

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see oh

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ah

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m lids

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yeah oh

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yeah i mean it's

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yeah

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all consumer products you would see

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yeah

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out there in the world and you have no idea that they're

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m

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made in sussex wisconsin pretty neat

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m m

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hm

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it is very cool when

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oh

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the first time i saw your display at the chamber office and i saw all

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the things that were on there and the first time i was in the conference

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room with looking at all the cosmetic stuff and cosmetic cases all those other things

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like never would have guessed coming

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oh

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yeah

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up because because i don't when you drive by you don't see all the things

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you don't see how big the building is you just see the front entrance sort

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of and like okay oh this is all coming out

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yeah

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of here very very cool

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yeah we're tucked we're tucked away behind a lot of

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yeah

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trees and foliage you never know you never know how big

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yeah

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we are

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right

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that's okay though we like we like to be a little under the radar sometimes

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um m so you know kind

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oh

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of going back to that way we've always done it scenario right so you've come

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into the organization i spent eight years had to go through those boomers to get

herda]: 00:17:44

them to understand what's got to happen now of a sudden this twenty five year

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old twenty two year old comes in and says hey megan why are you doing

herda]: 00:17:56

it

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oh

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this way how are how are you going to take that on and react and

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deal with that because it's the next thing that's coming through um m

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hm

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to face

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ah

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oh

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yeah

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so

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oh

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i have i have had that

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yes

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happen and i've been like we're not going to do that we tried that and

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it didn't work and i stabbed myself

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yeah

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and i'm

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ah

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like oh my god

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ah

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ah

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shand i sound like my

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like

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father

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i

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h

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do

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yes

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damn it

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it has happened

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a

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several times and i will stop

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oh

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myself and be like i am not that person if you have an idea

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yeah

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i would love to hear it

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yeah

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yeah

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just not right

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yeah

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now

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well and

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yeah

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you know what i don't

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oh

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i don't

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yeah

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have a problem with if you have a suggestion for a better way to do

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something

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my

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or an improvement

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oh

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i'm all for it my problem is that i've been told this several times

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ah

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i'm not good at delegating

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really

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so someone comes to me with a problem

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uh

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i will take

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uh

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it on and i will do it and the reason why i say that to

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them is because i'm essentially like they'll come to with an idea and then it's

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my problem so if somebody else has an awesome idea and they want to do

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it have at it but i can't take on those

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oh

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projects anymore um because it used to be my job that's all i would do

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and i loved it and it's hard to it's hard to not do that i

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am not that person i a problem solver i c a problem i want to

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fix it

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yah

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and it is that

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yes

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is hard for me so

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ah

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i've had to really restrain myself from from solving

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yeah

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everybody else's problems if they want to do it have ad it you know

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nice

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i'll be here to support you and guide you but i just can't i can't

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do it all

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i've raised enough white flag that

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oh

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i can't do it any more you

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i

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oh

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mean it's not to say i won't help and i'm not still doing that it's

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just no at some point people have great ideas and i love to hear them

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um at some point i can't just do them all by myself

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correct

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that's why we have a team that's why we have a group of people that

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were mentoring and bringing up and learning so they can continuously improve in solve those

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problems and we have we have a very good team here oh yeah proud of

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them

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very cool what would you say to any millennial that millennial or gens that's looking

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um at blue color work what advice would you give them support there to support

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their interest yeah

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i would say to not judge a book by its cover so manufacturing plastics just

doyle]: 00:21:01

yeah

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doesn't get the best reputation right for whatever

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right

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reason it's dirty

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oh

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it's not good for the environment what have you right

herda]: 00:21:08

oh

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m

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and to really come into a company and see the complexity of what we're doing

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we're making products in the united states for the united states and we are we

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are a core piller and the g d p of the united states we're providing

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jobs for four hundred plus employes here in sussex i mean we are very important

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to the economy and we're making something tangible i can see i can walk out

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to the shop floor and i can i can see it go from pellet into

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the machine into a plastic part that's going to be on a store shelf or

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in your home some day and there is nothing cooler than doing that or you

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know my dad taking us to wall

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yes

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greens and showing us the compacts that he made or he designed

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oh

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twenty years ago

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uh

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like

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uh

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you had

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yeah

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so much

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yeah

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pride in that and it gave me and my siblings that same pride um and

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it's it's just really cool and there's not a lot of a lot of jobs

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you're not don't get this tangible feeling of like i made this i i did

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something to make this

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yeah

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um that's that's the best part and i think until you're in manufacturing you just

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you don't see that side of it oh

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rightly

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it's really fun

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yes there is nothing better than

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oh

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then seeing something start as one thing that nobody can in vision and shows up

herda]: 00:22:43

as something else right you had made a comment about you know it's not dark

herda]: 00:22:47

not you know he dark dirty dangerous but you also made something about not good

herda]: 00:22:50

for the environment

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m

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maybe you know this answer maybe you don't but what since you are in a

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plastic organization what are you

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how

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seeing

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do you

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in your industry for the the ability to

doyle]: 00:23:04

oh

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find recycled materials be able to make

doyle]: 00:23:08

oh

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new products from as well as what

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yeah

herda]: 00:23:10

are you doing to take your flash and other things to potentially be recycled or

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repurposed or be used within the facility or turned into few or what are you

herda]: 00:23:19

guys doing in your space to facilitate that

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hm yeah so there's a couple of different things so obviously there's a big push

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from a lot of our customers to use recycled material

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yeah

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right whether it's post consumer recycled or post industrial recycle material within there products the

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issue with that sometimes can be that every lot of material is different from a

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processing

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m

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perspective if you want perfect parts that have no

doyle]: 00:23:53

yeah

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cosmetic um you know issues

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right

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that they process perfectly they have very tight tolerances for quality that can be very

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difficult with recycle material there's also not a lot of it in the world

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right

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know i mean it's it's a nitch area right now and

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oh

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there's just you're not going to find millions and millions nd pounds of it because

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the infrastructure is not there or for the recytling um so that's so that's one

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piece of it the second piece of it is that m

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a

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chemical recycling is kind of the next wave over cycling where

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hm

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they would be able to take or scrap your re grind that sort of thing

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or a or plastic parts that would go into a land fill and chemically recycled

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them back to the virgin pellet

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wow

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that is that is

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mhm

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coming but it will be many years

doyle]: 00:24:49

oh

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because the infrastructure again is not there i mean you need these massive companies to

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be able to fineries to be able to do that but but it's coming it

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will just be a while right now

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yeah

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we use as we grind up all of our

doyle]: 00:25:06

it

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re grind and use it back into our molding process as long as the process

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is capable and the customer allows it and then anything else is sold to m

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companies that by re grind and

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ye

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turn it into two other things so nothing goes into a land fill from the

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from the grinding perspective

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very cool

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um so it is it's a circular it's becoming more circular and we our company

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we are endurable goods we do very very very little single use plastic

herda]: 00:25:41

okay

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um and that's and that's something we

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oh

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when we're looking for new customers

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oh

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that's something we prioritize is durable

herda]: 00:25:49

you're

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good

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not in so you're not doing the knives and forks and spoons for your plastic

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nice forks

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no

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moon type stuff

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no

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yeah

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no not

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new

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unless unless they can

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solo

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be

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cup

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a

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solo cups no

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oh

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poslabout

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yeah

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something yeah

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so so

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athos

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so megan how does a young person or even an older person that says hey

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you know what this is pretty cool this sounds good you guys are doing what

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you need to do for the environment you're growing doing these things how would somebody

herda]: 00:26:17

get a hold of you or sussex i am

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oh

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if they have interest in talking more or finding

doyle]: 00:26:22

oh

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out what opportunities might exist there

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yeah so i would say email me

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no

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um look me up and linked in

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so what would

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we

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that

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have him

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what would that email be because this is a we're seeing each other

tzanoukakis]: 00:26:37

you want

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with

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me

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the

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to

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folks

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spell out my email for you

herda]: 00:26:40

the folk that are listening can't see what we see

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yeah

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it's an audio

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okay

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show

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want me you want me to

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yeah

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spell it out for you

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well or we can say hey you know we'll put it in the show notes

herda]: 00:26:52

how about that because it is it is a

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yeah

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lot of letters

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put it in the show up because if i spell it for you people are

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just going to

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yeah

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it's going to get messed up

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it is

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oh

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but i would say if someone's interested

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ah

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email me i love to chat i'm really big on on especially more women in

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the manufacturing

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yes

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industry there are not enough of us and the ones that are the ones we

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have are amazing and we just need more of them

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completely

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so

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agree

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i'd love to chat any time

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yes olly agree there

herda]: 00:27:26

all

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yeah

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right so this wasn't so bad was was it pushing you outside your comfort

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no

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one

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this one's fun

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this was fun so you'd come

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i

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back

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liked

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again

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it sure as long as you want me

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so yeah what would be great is to get you and dad on the same

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thing will talk about some fun stuff

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yea

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talk about

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oh

herda]: 00:27:46

talk about vacation we'll talk about

tzanoukakis]: 00:27:48

oh

herda]: 00:27:48

you know

tzanoukakis]: 00:27:49

a

herda]: 00:27:49

p t o and all those fun things

doyle]: 00:27:50

yeah

herda]: 00:27:50

that dad probably not excited about

tzanoukakis]: 00:27:55

hey i'm sure he would be on i think he would be open to it

herda]: 00:27:57

i think it would be too that's why i think it would be fun so

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:01

ah i

herda]: 00:28:01

now

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:01

think

herda]: 00:28:01

that you know how painless

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:02

i think he

herda]: 00:28:02

it is we can make that happen all right

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:05

yeah this was fun

herda]: 00:28:06

awesome

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:07

be down for that

herda]: 00:28:08

all right cool you

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:09

we

herda]: 00:28:09

have a great rest of your week and we will talk to you

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:12

thank

herda]: 00:28:12

soon

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:12

you

herda]: 00:28:12

megan

doyle]: 00:28:13

oh

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:14

you to thanks guys have a nice weekend

doyle]: 00:28:15

yes

herda]: 00:28:15

thanks

tzanoukakis]: 00:28:17

i

herda]: 00:28:19

and